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Ray916MN
Joined: 29 Apr 2015 Posts: 71 Location: Orono, MN
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:50 am Post subject: SB6R Wet Weight (Kerb Weight) |
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Anyone know what an SB6R full of fluids weighs? |
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stockcar
Joined: 07 Apr 2011 Posts: 836 Location: in the shadow of the "angel"
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:22 am Post subject: |
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dry weight is listed as both 190kg & 195kgs dependant on which factory info you read
no idea about a wet weight, sorry |
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Evilchicken0
Joined: 12 May 2010 Posts: 2996 Location: London
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:42 am Post subject: |
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You need a pair of bathroom scales ... maybe a charity shop would have them. _________________ Don't read everything you believe |
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Gammaboy
Joined: 25 Feb 2016 Posts: 188 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Or one scale and a block of wood the same thickness as the scales |
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Ray916MN
Joined: 29 Apr 2015 Posts: 71 Location: Orono, MN
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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First I'd need to have the bike to weigh.....
Based on the characterization of the bike weighing 88lbs. less than the donor GSXR my guess is 465lbs., but I thought someone on the forum might know the answer. I've got one coming and am thinking of getting Dymag wheels for it to replace the Anchors. Looks like the Dymag CFs should save about 16lbs, but if the SB6R is too heavy to begin with I won't bother.
BTW a V Due EF with Dymag CF wheels weighs 360lbs. full of fuel. Haven't weighed the KB3 nor the DB2 EF with Dymag CF wheels. |
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GeeKay
Joined: 29 May 2009 Posts: 1767 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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dry weight is 190kgs
fuel tank capacity = 22 litres = 17.16kgs of petrol when full.
Don't know engine oil capacity but 1 litre of 10W40 weighs 0.9kg
Don't know how much water it holds, but 1ltr of water weighs 1kg
so around 210 - 215 kgs wet? _________________ Bimota SB6 and Benelli TNT 899S road bikes.
Beta Techno trials iron. Project bikes:- Suzuki V4 500, TS185 cafe racer, XR11/71, Kettle/Katana, TDRGV250, OR50, Gag125,Triumph T595 and a Triumph X75 Hurricane replica.
Too many projects............... |
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Gammaboy
Joined: 25 Feb 2016 Posts: 188 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:42 am Post subject: |
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Drop another 4 kg out of it for a lithium battery... |
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Ray916MN
Joined: 29 Apr 2015 Posts: 71 Location: Orono, MN
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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GeeKay wrote: |
dry weight is 190kgs
fuel tank capacity = 22 litres = 17.16kgs of petrol when full.
Don't know engine oil capacity but 1 litre of 10W40 weighs 0.9kg
Don't know how much water it holds, but 1ltr of water weighs 1kg
so around 210 - 215 kgs wet? |
Does anyone know Bimota's definition of "dry"? Also from published weights to actuals I've seen evidence that Bimota took liberties just like other makers (explained away by things like we didn't include the battery, because it is wet). Do we really believe Bimota's published weights? |
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GeeKay
Joined: 29 May 2009 Posts: 1767 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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dry weight should refer to the weight less fluids.
but clearly a lot of manufacturers omit other parts too - the battery being a good example.
best (and cheapest) way to cut the mass is to only half-fill the fuel tank - over 8kgs saved for no extra cost. _________________ Bimota SB6 and Benelli TNT 899S road bikes.
Beta Techno trials iron. Project bikes:- Suzuki V4 500, TS185 cafe racer, XR11/71, Kettle/Katana, TDRGV250, OR50, Gag125,Triumph T595 and a Triumph X75 Hurricane replica.
Too many projects............... |
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Ray916MN
Joined: 29 Apr 2015 Posts: 71 Location: Orono, MN
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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Gammaboy wrote: |
Drop another 4 kg out of it for a lithium battery... |
20+ bikes with conventional charger banks spread across the shop. Been avoiding Li batteries because I don't want get new chargers. Maybe I'll have to bite the bullet.... |
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Bud977
Joined: 03 Mar 2013 Posts: 525 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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I just use normal chargers for lithium batteries. Never had a problem.
I figure that you plug lithium batteries into your standard motorcycle charging system without any changes. If that works, why wouldn't a standard 240V charger?
You'll find you don't really need trickle chargers with the lithium batteries. I can go back to my race bikes and dirt bikes after a year and the battery still has full charge and plenty of oomph to start the bike. Even my KTM 300 EXC will start off the button! |
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Evilchicken0
Joined: 12 May 2010 Posts: 2996 Location: London
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Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:15 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't get to hung up on a figure, the weight of a bike is relative.
The wheels are a good thing to do because they're unsprung and gyroscopic. The battery is practical as well as weight. _________________ Don't read everything you believe |
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Bud977
Joined: 03 Mar 2013 Posts: 525 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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You can also save 8 kg by going to race glass. The standard seat/tank unit weighs 6kg, and the raceglass version weighs 2 kg. Same for the fairing. |
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Gammaboy
Joined: 25 Feb 2016 Posts: 188 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:10 am Post subject: |
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Bud977 wrote: |
You can also save 8 kg by going to race glass. The standard seat/tank unit weighs 6kg, and the raceglass version weighs 2 kg. Same for the fairing. |
Who the fuck makes race glass for a SB6? |
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Jonny B Bad
Joined: 05 Dec 2009 Posts: 555 Location: NE London
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Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:03 am Post subject: SB6R weight |
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Wheels, exhaust (cans) and battery are the main areas to address. The wheels are excessively heavy as standard and the cans and battery are both above the centre of gravity. Change all 3 and the entire character of the bike changes from fast barge to great ride. _________________ What, Jonny's gone! |
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