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YB9 SRI Woes.....Help, Help, Help!!

 
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JohnnyCecotto



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:49 am    Post subject: YB9 SRI Woes.....Help, Help, Help!! Reply with quote

Anybody know how to get a YB9 SRI to run in our damp UK climate??!!!

I think there is a potentiometer fix??

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry can't help as mines an SR, but hope you can sort it as they are great bikes for a good thrash.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sell it ... I can run to a mars bar and belly button fluff ...

Take it to a dyno, I know its really the cheapest solution but you need some test equipment to find the problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Throw the injection system in the bin and fit a set of carbs Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I nearly bought one from NLM when they were the ' importers ' some years ago, well that was till I rode it , BUT they did say they had alternative maps for the ecu , so maybe try talking to them and see what they say.
Although I did question WHY they had not put this far superior map on the bike I rode when they knew I was coming to test it !!????!! , So don't believe everything they say , but might help.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd fit a Power Commander or Bazzaz unit to it so you can tune it at a later date. You could probably reprogram the ecu but it would probably work out much more expensive.

The SRi used the ThunderCat engine, whereas the earlier ones hand the Foxeye, so the barrels are nikasil coated
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 12:17 pm    Post subject: Re YB9 SRI Reply with quote

Ok thanks, maybe carb mod would be easiest fix?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Re YB9 SRI Reply with quote

JohnnyCecotto wrote:
Ok thanks, maybe carb mod would be easiest fix?

Depends on the airbox I suppose but you could use cards, loom and CDI from a Thundercat as a starting point, you'll still need to have it tuned

If the bike runs then I'd say a dyno is the easiest fix
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Mike Jennings



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

you could try K&Ns on the Thundercat carbs to avoid using the airbox. I don't know how useful the airbox plenum is on these bikes but back when the SRi was designed they hadn't sorted the technology too well (which explains the SRi and the SB6 fuelling problems?).

Cheers, MikeJ

P.S. the FZR and Thundercat used different cylinder spacings, so the carb (and exhaust) spacings are different. Also, if I remember correctly, the late model FZRs were called Thundercats in some markets, just to confuse the issue, so check what you're buying.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Jennings wrote:
Hello,

you could try K&Ns on the Thundercat carbs to avoid using the airbox. I don't know how useful the airbox plenum is on these bikes but back when the SRi was designed they hadn't sorted the technology too well (which explains the SRi and the SB6 fuelling problems?).

Cheers, MikeJ

P.S. the FZR and Thundercat used different cylinder spacings, so the carb (and exhaust) spacings are different. Also, if I remember correctly, the late model FZRs were called Thundercats in some markets, just to confuse the issue, so check what you're buying.

SB7 used FI

The earlier FZR600 has the 3HE engine, but in 94 (in the UK) the FZR600R was introduced, it was known as the Foxeye because of the headlights, this engine is the 4JH. The next model was the YZF600 ThunderCat which used the basic engine from the 4JH but as I say had nikasil bores, this engine is 4TV. The ThunderCat carbs have a TPS making them slightly wider than the Foxeye ones, so if you use the Foxeye carbs then use the loom and CDI or the rev counter will give you a fault code (jumps to 8k rpm).
Bimota used the 4JH engine in the YB9 SR and the 4TV in the SRi.

I've got a FZR400RR 3TJ, you can use the 4JH or 4TV in the frame which is why I'm a bit geeky on them. They generally run better with an airbox.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again
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Mike Jennings



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

I ran a Thundercat engine in an SR frame for a racer project about eight years ago. It ran well with K&Ns and an R1 silencer but as Evil says, you need the Thundercat wiring loom for the TPS. I seem to remember that the cylinder spacings were different from the SR as I had to use a cheapo Far Eastern exhaust pipe set for the project.

The SB7 uses FI but the Sb6 uses carbs and the airbox can be a bit of a pain on them. On the other hand, using K&Ns on the SB6 can lead to flat spots as well so it's a bit of swings and roundabouts.

Cheers, MikeJ

P.S A hopped-up FZR400 sounds fun!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I finally finish the 400's. I've got 2 engines, an ex sidecar race unit and one that I've stroked to 660 using 3he crank and fazer rods
Odd about the pipe
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