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[SB6-RSF]

Hi all!! What would a -98 SB6-R in good condition "go" for in the UK in 2014? I have one for sale in Norway, but the amount of potential buyers is low. I`ve got both clocks with Miles and KPH for it. 25.000Km. What would it cost to get it tax`d in UK (total)?
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[husson73]

In France the maximum for such one would be 6500 €

[tommo-sb6]

[2bims]

I think SB6R man is on about import tax.....which in the Good Old UK is Zero for any bikes imported/bought within the UK....Potential owner would have to go through UK registration at the licensing centre...and the cost of an MOT...which in total is around 120 GBP...plus the cost of shipping also......As long as a vehicle has been previously registered in an EU state...theres no Tax or VAT to pay.......thus bikes within the EU zone can be bought and registered easily...evidently from outside EU...such as USA there would be import Tax and Vat payable...and they charge that on top of the shipping cost also ...deeming it to be part of the vehicle overall cost...ouch....

[Evilchicken0]

This came up in another forum

[2bims]

Yeh....I've been through this process....its Called "NOVA" as in Spanish for No go...but an anacronym for "Notification of Vehicle Arrival"...came in at start of April last year....Its a bit of a mockery in that its intended for Dealers who are buying new vehicles within the EU...and instead of them sitting on them and only paying VAT when they sell them...they have to register the import and pay tax straight away...regardless of whether they've sold the vehicle...and yeh..has to be done within 14 days

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/payinghmrc/nova/notregistered.htm

Unfortunately it applies to previously registered vehicles within the EU...where tax has already been paid so no tax should be due...but dont notify and theres a 5 GBP penalty PER day of late notification...just another Govt money grabbing idea intended to catch out the unweary whereas its merely intended to generate early payment of VAT and not for 2nd hand vehicles.......

And unfortunately as DVLA new license application is all on line now...they won't register until Tax or fines have been paid...as the computer says No....

Strangely though at the ports they dont check on vehicle arrivals or let you know what the issue could be if you dont notify...blissful non-knowledge costs dearly

[daveg]

What would an as new SB6R fetch with only 19km on the clock ie like new but registered and been in a collection??
Or one in the same condition but with 1100km?

[Evilchicken0]

It really depends what you want the bike to do. If it's going into a museum or static collection then the nearer mint the better. If you want to ride it then very low milage bikes aren't always the best ones to own.
The rubber parts can go hard, the clutch plates can dry out at the top and break, the break lines can go off ...... you see what I mean. They can take a lot to recomission them which adds to the already higher price you have to pay. Then you find your low miles start to creep up and you don't enjoy riding it because of the depreciation.
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[2bims]

I concur....any bike thats been sat and not ridden/started can be a problem if the new owner wants to ride it...brake calipers can stick/seals perish....and as with all Bimotas with Italian electrics...there can be problems...cables like to have current running through them and not be sat...evidently a new battery, tyres etc would also be called for.

As for price? Well the 6R is not "unloved" but perhaps the bargain of all Bimotas and is easy to get at a good price...especially considering how much they were when new.....but thats if they were purchased at full price as a lot were cleared out for bargain prices when the Company went bump ...

Heres a similar low mileage example 6R not gathering much attention....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bimota-SB6R-2003-03-1100cc-Only-600k-from-new-Frame-no-433-1-prev-owner-/301164794488?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item461ed21278

And then theres this one...very low mileage but more than twice the price
http://suchen.mobile.de/motorrad-inserat/bimota-sb6-1100-s-b6-1100-r-brescia/193028630.html?lang=de&pageNumber=3&__lp=4&scopeId=MB&sortOption.sortBy=price.consumerGrossEuro&makeModelVariant1.makeId=3400&makeModelVariant1.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant2.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant3.searchInFreetext=false&vehicleCategory=Motorbike&segment=Motorbike&negativeFeatures=EXPORT

You say your bikes are registered,,,but are they UK bikes? i.e. Kms or miles...headlights for the UK or EU?

At the end of the day a Bimota...unlike other marques unfortunately...has 2 prices....how much someone is willing to pay...and how much the owner is willing to let it go for....

[daveg]

Tanks for the answers guys, you haven't said anything I didn't already know.
I have found two European bikes one with 19 km at 13900 euro and one with 1475 kms at 12500 euro, I think they are too much and just wondered what the opinion was on here as to how much one should pay for a bike to ride, but love like a museum piece.
That first bike that's on ebay now I have viewed and discounted as worth about £2500-3000 ( breaker) both speedo and rev counter don't work, it has previously fallen over and has an after market screen, has been stood in a damp garage recently and corrosion has started on all the fasteners, all of which I could sort out, but sadly when it was dropped I assume the frame was damaged as the lhs frame spare has been painted.

So basically what would be a reasonable price to pay for a nice SB6R with under 10k im thinking £5-6000 but your comments would be very very much appreciated

Also a coulpe of weeks ago this was on ebay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BIMOTA-SB6R-SUZUKI-GSX-1100R-COLLECTOR-OWNED-ONLY-1100miles-PRISTINE-THROUGHOUT-/251505319009?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3a8ee29c61
He had a start bid of £7950 and a buy it now of £8950.(didn't sell or even get a bid!!) It has a pattern top fairing fitted and was bought last year on ebay for £6000.00. Looking through the forum I see it was RWG's old bike.
With the huge price ranges being asked I am unsure where I should really end up, I know that these are older bikes and as you say sellers set the price they want, I just don't want to pay way way over the odds

Any help greatly appreciated

[daveg]

This is another that I have come across
Its for sale by Rudolf of Bimota-parts.de

http://www.bimota-parts.de/en/component/virtuemart/sb6r/bimota-sb-6-r-detail.html?Itemid=0
Said he wants 13900 euro for it (as new with 19km's)

[morebhp]

Hi Dave I think a few NOS (New Old Stock - 0km) SB6R's were sold at a classic show in the UK last year - someone off the forum bought one (sorry do not remember who).

There seems to be a few about in the UK. Be interesting to know how many are out there!

I bought my 0km bike about 3 years back in the UK. An unashamed investment (queue the flames - In my defence I do ride my other bike!).

It's a stunning piece of Motorcycle Art which I get pleasure from owning and looking at in my office. Gives me far more pleasure than a statement once a year from the bank saying I've earned bugger all on the cash in the bank.

At some point I'll sell it on to the next guardian (as we all do - ride em or not) but I am happy to hold for the moment.

Good luck with the search.
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[2bims]

Pretty sure it was Bonhams at Stafford...heres a few that sold...including a Zero reg YB11 for 5175......Unregistered no paperwork..........

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/19768/lot/240/

or a 6R but used...do recall a few SB6Rs sold..just need to scan through the Bonhams results in the UK...from recollection they were brand new and unregistered and fetched 4-5K

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/19768/lot/242/

[Evilchicken0]

I think you need to budget £5-6k, for that you should get a nice bike from a good owner. The higher prices are asked for by dealers they might sell them with a limited waranty, put a new mot on and maybe new tyres etc.

The 6R isn't thought to be as pretty as the 6 but it's a better bike for riding. It's got a softer saddle, better airbox, the later adjustable forks and an easier fairing.
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[daveg]

Thanks guys
My thoughts on budgets are about inline with yours. I would rather have an as new bike for a little more money and then put tyres and seals etc into the mix
So if you see one or hear about one please please let me know